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Wednesday

2010-08-25 Dinner @ Shanghai Village

ADDRESS 3250 Cambie Street, Vancouver, BC
PHONE #   604-872-3618
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Ok...I'm gonna share something first before I talk about my dining experience tonight.  Many of you may have noticed that in our blog, we usually only comment on the basic tastes and whether we enjoy the dishes or not...this is because both Buddha Boy and I don't think we're qualified to criticize any of the dishes at any of the restaurants.  Anyhow, I came across about 10+ recent Chinese news articles online about Chinese food and these writers were quite true about the differences between food connoisseurs and food criticsMany of those so-called "food connoisseurs" are really just food writers, food critics, or restaurant critics.  These critics visit and analyze food/restaurants and then publish their findings/experiences.  However, many of these critics actually don't have much background knowledge of the food that they're tasting, and often, they depend too much on their readings (online or books) and "assume" that their research information is what the food "should be" instead of what the food "supposed to be".  And I must agree with some of these articles when they mentioned that for Chinese food, presently, there's really only one true food connoisseur who has earned the right to comment, to criticize, and to correct one's food, and that person is Leung Man-To (梁文韜, or in Mandarin, Liang Wen-Tao).
 Growing up, our two live-in chefs at home (who followed my grandparents from China to Taiwan to continue to serve them), have taught me some knowledge of the types of Chinese cuisines.  Moreover, at every meal, grandma would ask the chefs to introduce each dish and how each dish was made.  If there were any ingredients used that were not authentic to that dish, the chefs would have to explain why and acknowledge us what the proper ingredients were.  Anyways, I was quite impressed with some of these writers when they mentioned about the main streams of Chinese food.  Any respectable Chinese chef would tell you that Chinese food, through history for thousands of years, was only really divided into Four Great Traditions: Shangdong cuisine (魯菜), Szechuan cuisine (川菜), Cantonese cuisine (粵菜), and Huaiyang-cuisine (淮揚菜).  Though each of these four cuisines seemed to be named after one specific province, but they represent the four major geographic regions of China...and this fact has been proven by history.  However, in contrast, the so-called Eight Great Traditions or Ten Great Traditions were never proven by any historians.
 During our visit to Shanghai Village, the guy sitting at the table next to us was mentioning that Shanghai cuisine is the largest cuisine in China...I was so tempted to turn around and "acknowledge" him that Shanghai cuisine is a sub-sub-sub category of Huaiyang cuisine...grrrrr...
 Anyways, I took a picture of the 99 cents lunch special for their wonton soup...Buddha Boy and I were wondering and thought..."are they really that desperate for business at lunch time?"
 The three of us agreed that the prices are a bit on the higher side...but I guess their prices reflect the location of the restaurant.  Though the servers were very pleasant and courteous, they were quite inexperienced...they came by numerous times to collect/change plates, but never once they filled our tea pot...we didn't bother asking since we just wanted to get out of there...
 After we placed out orders, the server told us that our xiaolongbao is complimentary.  I asked why, he told us that if you order $20 or more, you'll get a free order of xiaolongbao...as much as it sounded weird and awkward...we welcomed any freebies...LOL!
 Buddha Boy and I did not have high hopes of these Xiaolongbao since they were free...I mean how good can freebies be?  But we were wrong...the skins were thin, each one was full of juice, and the flavor was light and they were not greasy...but just like Lin's...I think they put a bit too much corn starch in the meat filling...
 Shanghai Village has just kicked Lin's off my top three list for xiaolongbao and placed themselves along with Long's (#1) and Dinesty (#2)...LOL!!!
We also ordered the Crab Xiaolongbao...I thought these were a bit pricey and I can't really taste the crab...
 Green Onion Pancake...Buddha Boy enjoyed it but I did not.  Buddha thought the skin was crispy and it was not doughy.  I, on the other hand, thought these were doughy and had no flavor...
 Agate Eggs...basically these were preserved eggs + salty eggs...very refreshing!!!
 The server recommended the Three-Cup Chicken and said it's the most authentic Three-Cup Chicken you will ever find in 604...he stated that it tastes just like the ones you'll find in Taiwan...and our verdict?  The ginger slices were too thick and were not pan fried long enough to bring out its flavor, too little basil, too sweet and too salty...definitely NOT authentic.  To those who love Three-Cup Chicken, stick with the one at Magnetic Cafe
 This was their award-winning Fish noodles with Enoki Mushrooms (on the menu and on the checklist, it says "Fish Noodles w/Lily F"...though lily flower (金針花) and enoki mushrooms (金針菇) sound very similar in Chinese, however, they are two different things!!!  OMG!!!  They should have someone proof-read their menu before printing!!!  Gosh!!!  Anyways, the fish noodle were quite nice, soft yet still chewy...kinda tasted like those freshly made fish balls I had in HK except in strings.  But I do agree with Buddha Boy...this did not "wow" us...

8 comments:

  1. Yeah, I wouldn't order the 3-cup chicken at Shanghai Village -- just doesn't seem right. We went there a couple of weeks ago for lunch and the lunch deals seemed a better value. We didn't order from their regular menu, just the snacks menu. Most of the snacks we got were not bad to good. We also ordered the 99 cent soup: at that price, it seems like they're daring you NOT to order it! LOL It was not bad: the wonton skins were light and delicate, as well as the broth. Overall, I'd say Shanghai Village is a good place for lunch: not wow-material, but solid (a 6.5-7 out of 10).

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  2. Hello JS! Overall, Buddha Boy and I gave them a 7 out of 10, however, individual dish wise, we gave Three-Cup Chicken 5 out of 10...LOL! Can't believe that server told us "it's the best Three-Cup Chicken you'll ever find in 604"...we should have returned it since the server made his guarantee. SV is probably not a place we will visit often unless we really have a gathering or something...but I am planning to try their 99 cents wonton soup!!! LOL!!! Imagine I just walk in and order nothing except two bowls of wonton soup...HAHAHAHA!!!

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  3. Hi Buddha Girl:

    What?!? Only now you tell me that the Eight Great Traditions had never existed? After all the work and planning for nothing? LOL!

    Seriously, we need someone like you who are knowledgeable on Chinese cuisines to be in the 8GTCC team. I was wondering if you would like to join the team and take up the organizing of one cuisine.

    Do you have any references you could point us to matter regarding the definition of the 4 or 8 Traditions of Chinese Cuisine? I would like to find out more about this. We had a few references but nothing that is conclusive. Some says 4, some 8 and some 10. I guess any Chinese historical literature/source would be more convincing.

    But seriously, we need one person to join the 8GTCC team. Would you be interested?

    Ben

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  4. Hello Ben! What's everyone doing up so early??? LOL!!! The 4GT thought on the blog was spur of the moment after I read those Chinese articles online (and after that dumb guy sitting at the table next to us)...sorry it sounded offensive...really did not mean it that way!!! **hugz** I did a brief search on the topic and realized that the information given on Chinese wiki is quite different than what's written in English wiki...Chinese wiki did mention that 8GT does not really exist...hopefully I can dig out more historic proofs...once I find them, I will definitely forward them to you!

    Thank you for your compliment but seriously...I am not that experienced in Chinese cuisines...I enjoy the food and I love to eat! I find myself quite lucky because I know some people who are either chefs or owners of some of the Chinese restaurants in 604...such as Excelsior or Top Gun...and I often ask them for "secrets" in cooking certain dishes...and of course...I married a husband who loves to cook!!! That's a bonus!!!

    Currently, from now to middle of October, I must decline your invitation in the organizing part due to my exam in October...I am studying every day and night hoping to pass it with 71%...lol!!! But I am happy to provide inputs depending on the type of cuisines you are looking for!

    Once again...SORRY about the 4GT vs. 8GT!!!

    ^_^

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  5. Hi Buddhagirl, this comment was actually for your 2009 Taiwan trip series. I'm not able to post comments in that series. It says for member only. Anyway here it is:

    Hi Buddhagirl, I just finished going through all the posts and pictures of your taiwan trip. It is really amazing the variety of Taiwanese food you can get in Taiwan. I bet you and Buddhaboy gained a few pounds after that two week of eating in Taiwan. Thank you for posting. I really enjoy it. Looking forward to your future posts of your vacation trips.

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  6. Oh no, no, no ... no apology required for 4GT/8GT. I am interested to find out more and here to learn. There are many schools of thoughts about the 4GT/8GT/10GT classifications. Unfortunately, me and almost everyone in the 8GTCC team does not read Chinese and as such we relied mostly on translated materials. I would love to find out if there is a Chinese literature somewhere that first mentions the classifications of Chinese cuisine. I had an excellent book on Chinese cuisine starting from pre-historic days to modern cuisines but he skirted around the genesis of the classifications of Chinese cuisines. None of us in the 8GTCC are experts by any stretch of imagination. We contribute by doing research and exchanging information. The 8GTCC project is a long term thing (we have 5 cuisines to go lasting to next year). We have one team member dropped out because of new family commitments but I think you will be a valuable member to the team ... even if it means joining us after your exams. Think about it? :-)
    Ben

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  7. Lechon!!! So sorry!!! I am not very savvy with blogging stuff...actually...I am not savvy with computers at all!!! I have fixed the comment thingy!!! Please let me know if there are anymore stuff I should correct!!! 3Q3Q3Q so much!!! **hugz** Thanks for reading both of my blogs!!!

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  8. BEN!!! Thanks so much for the info!!! I will definetely think about it...AFTER MY EXAM!!! LOL! All I have in my mind nowadays are two things...study-food-study-food-study-food...and so on so forth! Yea...I am quite interested in finding out how the 4GT became the 4GT and how come it did not expand...I have asked my godbro in Taiwan to find books for me too...since he's a professor at a local university...he SHOULD have more access to historic books...lol!!!

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